BIAFRA: NIGERIA PUSHING IGBO TO SECEDE AGAIN
BIAFRA: NIGERIA
PUSHING IGBO TO SECEDE AGAIN
By Onyedika
Agbedo
Chief John Nnia Nwodo (Jnr) was elected as the
President-General of apex Igbo socio-cultural organisation, Ohanaeze Ndigbo,
recently. A lawyer and economist by training, Nwodo is not new to public
life. He had served as minister of civil aviation (1983) and minister of
information and culture (1998-1999), amid other national and regional
assignments. He aspired for the presidency on the platform of the All Nigeria
Peoples Party (ANPP) in 2003. In this explosive interview, Nwodo speaks on his
new responsibility and the state of the nation, baring his mind on issues like
the alleged marginalisation South-east by the incumbent administration, the
separatist agitation in the zone, restructuring and the economic recession
ravaging the country, among other issues.
You are assuming the
leadership of Ohanaeze Ndigbo at a very critical period in Nigeria’s history.
How are you finding your new role?
I have found
the job extremely challenging. I have witnessed considerable enthusiasm from
our people for structural change in Ohanaeze, and activist representation on
issues that affect Igbo people. One month into office, we have been put
virtually on our toes and we have been moving, meeting and talking. So, it’s
been quite busy.
Some people opposed
your emergence on the ground that you are a politician and might take Ohanaeze
into politics. What is the assurance that the organisation will continue as a
socio-cultural group under your watch?
The
prerequisite for holding a national office in Ohanaeze is that you must not belong
to any political party. Right now I don’t belong to any. As for my antecedents,
the question is not whether I conform to the Plutonian philosophy that man is a
political being, and whether I have in my past been identified with partisan
political identities. But what did I do with them and what kind of politician
was I? I believe all those who voted for me considered those things and they
came to the conclusion that notwithstanding my political antecedents, I am
qualified to hold this position at this point in time. So, this question, in my
view, is overtaken by their mandate because they exercised their mandate on
behalf of the whole of Igbo people.
Ohanaeze at some point
derailed and the Igbo virtually lost their voice at the national level. What programmes
are you putting in place to restore the dignity of the organisation?
I don’t think
you want me to be judgmental on my predecessors, but what is important is that
we have been given a new challenge and I would like history to judge us on the
basis of what we have done. In one month, I have instituted a cabinet
government. My executive meets every month. In one month, we have orchestrated
our vision for Ohanaeze and your newspaper has published two advertorials we
issued. It has gone viral on the social media and our people know where we
stand. And they have begun to key in, in various forms. Our people in the
Diaspora have keyed in; they are interested. They are looking for active
participation and involvement in the affairs of Ohanaeze based on the road map
we have announced. In our executive meeting, we have set up a committee for
reviewing our constitution in order to ensure that there is more effective
participation of our people. We have decided to set up a website for Ohanaeze
so that our activities are topical and accessible. We plan to itemise all town
unions in all the Ohanaeze states as well as places where Igbos live outside
their homeland. So, we are going to have a roll call of all affiliate
organisations and town unions. It’s a gargantuan information technology
(IT) project. You know the world has become electronic and this is the easiest
way by which people can relate to an organisation, because people are very busy
and dispersed. There are Igbos living beyond the shores of this country whose
‘Igboness’ is pulsating. And they are anxious to relate in some ways to ensure
that our interests are properly harnessed and defended when they are attacked.
So, the project is well under way.
Also, we have a
new office coming up, thanks to Rochas Foundation. We are designing what to do
with the office when it’s finished. I am on a consultation tour, which has
taken me to Abuja and Lagos. I will also go round all the Igbo states. I will
also take the opportunity of the tour to meet with leaders of Afenifere, the
Pan-Niger Delta Movement, Arewa Consultative Forum, Middle Belt organisations
and so on. The meetings will provide opportunities for exchange of views on the
constitutional future of Nigeria.
Both the ACF and
Afenifere congratulated Ohanaeze on your emergence as president-general of the
organisation and expressed their readiness to work with your leadership towards
finding common solutions to the problems of the country. What are the likely
areas of synergy you are looking at?
Well, Igbos
live in all parts of the country and they have challenges everywhere that they
live in. In the North, once there is a political unrest, Igbos are the first
victims of that unrest, and our people are murdered and slain with reckless
abandon. This has to stop because we are not doing that to other Nigerians
living in Igbo land. So, when I meet with ACF, I’m going to raise that matter.
In Lagos, our
traders are treated with considerable discrimination both in the allocation of
land and destruction of shops and markets where they trade without involving
them in the reconstruction and the ownership afterwards. Igbos who are building
are denied Certificates of Occupancy for very long period without any reason,
which paves way for the government to destroy their property at will because
there is no legal status. Meanwhile, under the Nigerian constitution you are
free to own property anywhere in the country as a citizen. If an Igbo man
has so much confidence to build in Lagos, he should have a right to occupancy.
I mean, why should a man have valid permission to build but you would not give
him a Certificate of Occupancy? Our traders pay double taxation here.
After clearing their goods in the wharf, they are subjected to further
harassments on the streets by the same Customs officers who charge them money,
sometimes illegally. Why should you be really punished for doing legitimate
business in your own country? And they seem to have no protection from anybody
while this is done. These are issues I intend to raise with either government
agencies or other socio-cultural organisations, which can influence government
to ensure that we have better relationships.
Now, as we
develop our democracy, our constitution remains the legal foundation on which
the democracy thrives. Sadly, after the First Republic, all constitutions have
been imposed on this country by the military. And the jurisprudence of law is
its acceptability by the people. Right now, our constitution was forced on us;
we need a constitution generated by the people. This is a democracy and it has
to function like a democracy. All the problems we have in this country emanate
from the inadequacies of the constitution and how it is implemented. I intend
to raise it with these other groups. This exchange of ideas will help us to see
how we can bring to the table an effective participation of the ordinary
Nigerian citizen in determining the kind of constitutional structure our
country should have. It will help us to identify our common areas and our areas
of difference; and that’s part of problem solving.
The secessionist
agitation by the Independent People of Biafra (IPOB) and the Movement for the
Actualisation of the Sovereign State of Biafra (MASSOB) is one of the major
problems confronting the country at the moment. The continued detention of IPOB
leader, Nnamdi Kanu, has been giving impetus to the agitation. How does
Ohanaeze intend to handle the issue?
Let me say,
first of all, that both the press and the government have an unfair treatment
of the Biafran struggle. Boko Haram is worse in terms of treason than IPOB.
Boko Haram is an armed attack against Nigeria’s sovereignty. It is a movement
determined to Islamise Nigeria and to impose their own concept of Islam on the
entire country. It is a movement intended to wipe our entire educational system
and subject our women to lack of education. And where they physically conquered
in the past, they erected local authority, traditional authority and hoisted
flags. What could be a greater challenge to our national sovereignty than Boko
Haram? I don’t see any.
The Odua
Peoples Congress (OPC) is a militant organisation in the South-west; they move
in convoys not confronted by the Nigerian Police or the Armed Forces. There is
now streaming on the social media an Oduduwa Republic, advertised with the full
complements of a national characteristic – the estimated GDP, the parts of
Yoruba land that constitute Oduduwa Republic, their mineral resources endowment
and what have you. They are actively encouraged by the intellectual class in
Yoruba land. It has not even got a mention anywhere in the media, print or
electronic. No security agency has invited anybody for questioning and the
names of people who promote it are advertised. Nobody has been once invited to
be asked why he or she is proclaiming an Oduduwa Republic.
Now, the people
of the Niger Delta have sought for some independence of their own, if nothing
else, fiscal independence. In pursuing this, they have turned into an arms
struggle. They have blown up oil wells and oil pipelines. They have disrupted
businesses and law and order with reckless abandon. Government is negotiating
with them every day!
But the boys in
IPOB have only asserted their rights to freedom of expression and freedom of
association under the constitution. They are unarmed! The only instrument of
mobilisation that they have is a radio station, which was not licenced.
Meanwhile, all over the country, all kinds of people now have radio stations
that are not licenced. None of them has been subjected to indefinite detention
like Nnamdi Kanu. The discriminatory treatment of IPOB is a microcosm and a
symptomatic of the macro subjugation of Igbos to second-class citizens in
Nigeria.
Let us assume
for the sake of an argument that they have done something wrong, which I don’t
agree with. They are treated in a worse manner than other people in Nigeria who
have done equally things that are very, very wrong. And as their father, I
speak for them; I grieve for them and I champion for them. I have no apologies
for this; they are my children and the justice of their case cries to high
heavens. You see, the fact that a child explained loudly to his father what his
grievances are is a symptom of love. If they were grieving internally and
keeping this to themselves, they could be instruments of insurrection in the
kind of a submarine. But they are crying aloud in the streets and saying, ‘we
are not happy’. A good father would call them and say, ‘sit down my children,
what is your problem’, like they are doing to the people of Niger Delta. They
are negotiating with their fathers and negotiating with the militants. All the
militants there have become billionaires overnight. They have an amnesty programme
for them. But on the part of the IPOB people, the only answer is force,
intimidation and total subjugation of the rule of law in their treatment. I say
that this is wrong and I will continue to say so.
Are you inviting the
government to negotiate with IPOB?
Yes, I am! I
have only downed my pursuit of a negotiation with government on this matter
because of the unfortunate health situation of our president. The President has
been quite charitable to my executive by extending his hand of fellowship to us
so soon after our election. And I salute him for this; it is magnanimous on his
part. I also extended my hand of fellowship to him. The President is my
personal friend. I was with him in the same political party; both of us ran for
the presidency under the same party. So, I intend to explore that degree of
relationship and his hand of fellowship with a view to seeing that this policy
towards IPOB is reversed and we can sit round the table and discuss.
But what do you see as
the root cause of this agitation because from every indication, those guys are
not relenting?
You should
know; you are an Igbo man yourself. I had even answered the question earlier.
Our children feel like second-class citizens in their own country.
How?
Because of the
things I have explained to you.
Like what and what?
You read my
inaugural speech. We are completely shut out from the intelligence
paraphernalia of this country. No Igbo man heads any of the intelligence agencies
of the country; we do not head any arm of government. We do not sit in any
sensitive ministry. The allocation to capital projects in Igbo land are made to
achieve some kind of propaganda effect because in actual implementation,
nothing is done. The Enugu-Onitsha expressway has been on very budget since the
end of the war till today. Recently, the Minister of Power, Works and Housing,
Mr. Babatunde Fashola (SAN), assured us that in the next 17 months, those roads
would be reconstructed. But we had been given such assurances in the past and
they never came to anything. The Enugu-Port Harcourt road has remained like
that since the end of the war. We had been given assurances in the past and
nothing has happened. Contractors like Julius Berger don’t come to the East to
work; contracts in Igbo land are awarded to second/third rate contractors, who
do very little work. The Niger Bridge has remained in its comatose state for a
very long time. Jonathan promised us that he would not leave office without the
construction of the Second Niger Bridge but it never happened. Under this
government, the project was suspended for a long time. I hear that work has
resumed but I hope that it is so and that very soon we will see it completed.
The Minister of
Transport, Rotimi Amaechi, has promised us that the River Niger will be
dredged; I hope that it is concluded under his tenure. He seems to be a man who
does what he says and I anxiously look forward to seeing the dredging of the
River Niger executed so that we can have a seaport there. But this has been on
the table for decades. The child I had when the project was first conceived is
already studying for PhD today. So, these children don’t believe that the
system is fair to them.
Now, the coal
in Enugu has been lying there for God knows how long. As we speak, the Federal
Government has not even done a feasibility study to determine the quantity of
coal that is available so that it can attract foreign investors. Nkalagu Cement
Factory has been moribund for a very long time and it is taking an Igbo, Ibeto,
to revive and expand it. Meanwhile, the Federal Ministry of Industry, Trade and
Investment looks away. And they have directors on that company? Nobody cares
about the salt and lead in Abakiliki, Ebonyi State. Igbo people have no equal
access to the exploitation of our mineral resources. Among Nigerians who are
allocated oil wells in the country, we are in abysmal minority. Those licences
are not given to us. This is preposterous, unacceptable and discriminatory; we
condemn it in its entirety. It has to change; we are equal partners in this
federation. Unless we are treated so, Nigeria is asking us to ask for
secession once more.
What is your take on
the threat by IPOB to carry arms if the alleged killing of their members by
security agencies continues?
Let’s forget
about that. These are mental ejaculations. People who are young make statements
under extreme anger; it doesn’t arise. There is no evidence that they are
acquiring arms. So, let’s talk about something else.
Ohanaeze also issued a
statement saying that it would not fold its hands and watch while Igbo sons and
daughters are harassed by security agencies. What does it intend to do?
I have already
reflected it by the things I said I would do in terms of discussing with the
President.
A chieftain of the
ACF, Prof. Ango Abdullahi, recently said that the North was prepared for
Nigeria’s breakup and you have said here that if the status quo doesn’t change,
Igbos might still ask for secession. Are you saying that Igbos too are ready
for the dismemberment of the country?
At no time in
the history of Nigeria has our togetherness been threatened as it is today. The
mutual suspicion between participating units in the federation is at its
highest peak. That is why I am holding the consultations that I am doing. This
is our last desperate attempt to save the Federal Republic of Nigeria. No
doubt, there is strength in diversity. This is the greatest African country in
terms of land mass, population and mineral resources; and also in terms of
potentials for leadership and development. It is in the interest of all of us
to work together. But we have got to do it the right way and if we don’t get it
right we might as well say ‘to your tents Israel.’ That’s all I am
saying.
So, what is your take
on the crusade for the restructuring of the country?
Don’t ask me
for my personal opinion. This Ohanaeze is a collegiate leadership; so don’t ask
for my personal view.
What is the position
of Ohanaeze on restructuring?
We have not
discussed it. We are consulting and discussing with each other. Until the facts
crystallise, I cannot come to a decision as to what the Igbos want. John Nwodo
is just a chief servant of the Igbos; I am an instrument for carrying out Igbo
opinion. We are in the process of consultations. I have diagnosed the problem
as best as I can with you; synthesising the solution is a matter of
consultations with all our people first and then the other component parts of
Nigeria, and agreeing on something that everybody shares. That’s what
leadership is all about. Leadership is about building a consensus and making
sure that all parties feel satisfied in what is a consensus. As to whether
there is a grave situation, there is one. What Ango Abdullahi said is as good as
what I am saying; we are both saying the same thing. We have attained Hooke’s
law of elastic limit. The patience of Nigerians has been pushed to their very
limits and this is the time for statesmanship. That’s why I am being as frank
and open as I can so that those at the helm of authority may realise that the
time for strategic thinking has come. The time for solutions has come. The time
to give statesmen who love and care for this country the opportunity to come
together and seek a solution to the problems of the country has come. To delay
further is dangerous; it is a ticking time bomb.
Many people believe
that the implementation of the 2014 confab report will enthrone peace in the
country. Even former president Goodluck Jonathan who midwifed the conference
did say so when he recently addressed United States lawmakers. Ohanaeze had
also expressed a similar view in the past before the emergence of the current
executive. But you just talked about statesmen who love the country coming
together to seek for solutions to the challenges of the country. Has Ohanaeze
changed its position?
These are all
parts to a solution; no part is exclusively the best. But the point is that we
need a discussion. With all due respect to former president Jonathan, he was
lethargic in his handling of the conclusion of that conference. I mean, if you
set up a conference and you really wanted to make use of the deliberations of
the conference, you should have also had a political mechanics for the adoption
of its reports and the consequential constitutional changes. In his own case,
he had a majority of his party in the National Assembly and it was an easy
thing for him to ensure that his party was in the forefront to reach an
agreement for a constitutional amendment.
But I didn’t see the
political will. And what he is doing now is like a post-mortem. When he had the
executive authority to push institutional and constitutional reforms, he didn’t
do it at all or as fast as he ought to. So, this is something that
the Buhari/Osinbajo administration must re-tool. They must put this
constitutional discussion on the front burner. This federation as presently
structured does not enjoy the confidence of Nigerians. And to delay a
discussion of it further is to exacerbate the tension and increase separatist
agitations.
Are you calling for a
fresh conference?
Don’t put words
into my mouth. What I have said is sufficiently explanatory. The government
should make up its mind on what it wants to do.
Former president
Olusegun Obasanjo recently said the Igbos deserve to produce the next president
of the country…
(Cuts in) I am
not interested in this. Let’s talk about something else.
Given the picture you
have painted about the country, what is your advice to politicians from the
South-east especially against the backdrop of the recent media spat between
governors Willie Obiano of Anambra State and Rochas Okorocha of Imo State?
I know that the
print media like selling their papers. So, sometimes you exaggerate a story
beyond its actual form in order to sensationalise and get people to buy. You
have not also reported that Obiano and Okorocha have been talking on phone
since then; and they have made it public that they have no personal
differences. You have also not made it sensational that I have spoken with both
of them and they assured me that this thing was exaggerated by their
lieutenants who replied stories without clearance with them; and that they are
fundamentally still friends and brothers. I hope that this response will also
be given adequate prominence the same way as was given their disagreement.
Really, that was just a storm in a teacup. Even husband and wife sometimes disagree.
Okorocha’s difference with Obiano was exaggerated beyond proportion. They are
very good friends and we are all meeting and talking.
You know that what led
to that disagreement had to do with the ongoing realignment of political
groupings across the country, which has seen many politicians in the South-east
defect to the ruling All Progressives Congress (APC). As the trend continues
ahead of the 2019 election, what is your advise?
Igbo
politicians are free to belong to whatever political parties they like. And I’m
sure that in whatever parties they are, they are advancing our basic Igbo
interests. Ohanaeze is all-inclusive. In Ohanaeze, members of all the political
parties are there and each of them knows our position. And the whole essence of
representative government is to put the interest of your constituency first.
So, our legislators, ministers and top politicians know what our interests are.
I’m sure they are advancing them as vigorously as they can wherever they are.
Nigerians
came out recently to protest against the level of hardship in the land, which
was occasioned by the economic recession that hit the country over one year
ago. You once aspired for the presidency. How would you have handled the
situation if you were the one on the saddle at a time like this?
First of all,
you know that this recession is a global thing; it is not peculiar to Nigeria.
But our situation is made worse by the fact that we are an economy largely
dependent on oil revenue. Our situation is made far worse because we are a
country whose resources have been frittered away by unbridled corruption. Our
situation has been made worse because our capacity for law enforcement is
seriously jaundiced. People can get away with murder in this country; Nigerians
don’t believe that the law is made to be obeyed. They believe they can purchase
their way through crime. And so, you can’t really change a system without an
order.
The diagnosis
of the problem by the present government is correct. We need diversification.
So, they want to concentrate on solid minerals, agriculture and general
services as a way of diversifying the sources of revenue. My worry is that the
government has not hit the ground running. In May this year, it will be two
years that they came into government. In print, I have seen this policy of
diversification but I have not seen the practical component for mobilising the
citizenry and for achieving the goals of the policy. What do I mean by this?
Take agriculture as a typology. If we really need to radicalise production in
agriculture, we must have a policy that addresses agriculture to the individual
farmer, the corporate farmer, our financial institutions, donor agencies and
educational institutions. We must get the people to buy into the programme,
accept it as their programme and think it in their daily lives.
In order to make this
illustration demonstrative, let’s go back to history. Under the First Republic,
Dr. Michael Okpara had an agrarian policy in Eastern Nigeria; Sir Ahmadu Bello
had an agrarian policy in Northern Nigeria; and Chief Obafemi Awolowo had an
agrarian policy in Western Nigeria. In Eastern Nigeria, the greatest target was
palm produce; in Western Nigeria, the greatest target was cocoa; in Northern
Nigeria, the greatest target was groundnut. Groundnut pyramids sprang up in
Northern Nigeria; cocoa was a major foreign exchange earner for Western
Nigeria. Today, little West African countries have overtaken us in the
production of cocoa. Malaysia has displaced us completely as number one
supplier of palm produce. We used palm produce to build the University of
Nigeria, Nsukka; we used cocoa to build the University of Ibadan; we used
groundnut to build Ahmadu Bello University, Zaria.
Today, we cannot even
sustain those universities even when we still have the potential to increase
the export of these products; instead, we are importing them because of over
reliance on oil. Now, the government did not hit the ground running with ideas
and practical implementation. Let me also advance farther than the First
Republic. Under Obasanjo’s Operation Feed the Nation, part of which was
inherited by subsequent administration, then military administrator, Samson
Emeka Omeruah, started the Palm-to-Palm programme and multiplied palm seedlings
in my state. I am still enjoying the product of Palm-to-Palm because my father
bought a lot of palm seedlings then and planted them. Today, my brothers and
sisters enjoy palm oil from it, which continue to flow unlimitedly. Now, there
is a serious increase in the price of palm oil and it’s probably one of my
major sources of livelihood.
Really?
Yes! Former
governor Donald Duke of Cross River State had a tremendous programme for the
production of palm seedlings. In the next 10 years, palm oil resources in Cross
River will earn enough foreign exchange to take care of the state’s recurrent
expenditure, courtesy of a leader who engaged in futuristic thinking.
Now, I don’t see the
practical components of the implementation of the diversification programme. I
don’t see how as a farmer I can get improved seedling, how I can get consultancy
advice or how I can source fertiliser at a cheap price. I do not see that
government has a target that in every local government in this country,
especially in the South-east where I come from, that has problems in accessing
their farmlands, there will be land reclamation of two miles every year. I
don’t see institutions that have been built up at town, local council, state
and federal levels that will drive the diversification policy as a national
emergency. Consequently, the diversification philosophy is a slogan. It has not
become an implementable policy.
The growth of
new industries through the exploitation of new solid minerals is a beautiful
policy on paper. But I don’t see its practical implementation because I still
see the coal in Enugu in its unexploited state. I still see the lead in
Abakiliki without any policy of government towards attracting foreign investors
to exploit it. There is no projection that in three years time or so, these
numbers of mineral resources will earn us this volume of foreign exchange. In
England where I went to school, they plan for the expansion of a road in 10
years time from the date of commissioning; so they begin to think about the
cost of the project from the word go. Nobody thinks like that here.
But we also used to
have national development plans until the military came and distorted the
system?
We can’t live
in the blame anymore; we have to move on. And this is a democracy for goodness’
sake. Sometimes in this country, government is seen as the conquest of warfare
and so on the attainment of government you just put a number of people who
campaigned for you in positions, who may be loyalists politically but bereft of
ideas about how to move the country forward. There must be a thin line between
payment of political dues and recruitment of people with the intellectual
resources to move the country forward and with the discipline for
implementation of policies. This is the greatest drawback of the present
administration. They have not connected the people with the declared
objectives. The objectives are fine and beautiful; nothing can be better. But
there is no movement for it. They need to mobilise the citizenry to believe in
what they are doing.
When the president of
Czech Republic came to Nigeria for the Anyiam Osigwe lecture series sometime
ago, somebody asked him the magic he used to transform Czech Republic from a
developing country to a developed country within so short a time. He said, ‘we
got our best brains to develop the policy for a paradigm shift, we sold the
people the policy, we democratised it, we publicised it, the people accepted
the programme as their own and in their individual spheres of influence, they
began to operate it’.
Look, I lived
and grew up in Igbo land. Chukwuemeka Odumegwu-Ojukwu democratised the concept
of Biafra to the ordinary Igbo man during the civil war. His propaganda was
first class. Even his threat that should all Biafrans be killed, the grasses
would fight, was believed by the people. And the Biafrans coined a song in which
they sang, ‘have inexhaustible patience, patience wins a war; even if we have
no foods or meat to eat, let us kill lizards and eat them instead of meat’ (dibe,
dibe, dibe ndidi nwe nmeri, onye anu guru ya ribe ngwere, na Biafra nwe nmeri).
Young people in the army were singing it and they believed it. Nigeria needs a
philosophy that will catch the ordinary man in the direction in which it wants
to move. Without it, we cannot get out of this recession
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